After I saw this program and read the transcript, I found David Schriner online, I emailed him and asked him if he knew what this device that killed the car would feel like to a person, he never responded.
I also have the transcript where Schriner went before congress and notified congress of the dangers of these weapons and what they could do..I do not know how well it is known in congress now, but in 1999 many, many knew of these warnings on both sides of the aisle.
WEDNESDAY, 10 FEBRUARY ,1999 (THIS IS AND UNEDITED, UNCORRECTED TRANSCRIPT.)
SAM DONALDSON, ABCNEWS GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO 20/20 WEDNESDAY. TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE YOU TO A FUTURE ALREADY HERE. WE'LL SHOW YOU STRANGE AND ASTONISHING WEAPONS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN USED AGAINST AMERICAN SOLDIERS AND THE POLICE IN OTHER COUNTRIES. IN FACT, BECAUSE OF THESE WEAPONS, SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE SOME DAY IN THE FUTURE WE MAY FACE A KIND OF ELECTRONIC PEARL HARBOR, AS YOU DISCOVERED, DIANE
DIANE SAWYER, ABCNEWS, THAT IS EXACTLY THE PHRASE YOU HEAR PEOPLE USING. BECAUSE WHAT WE'VE BEEN INVESTIGATING TONIGHT IS SO NEW AND SO EXOTIC, MUCH OF IT REMAINS SECRET MILITARY INFORMATION. BUT TONIGHT, SOME EXPERTS AND A NAVAL INTELLIGENCE OFFICER HAVE DECIDED TO GO PUBLIC--FOR A SIMPLE REASON THEY SAY. IT'S TIME TO FACE THE FACTS.
IT STARTS WHEN THE LIGHTS GO OUT, NEXT, THE PHONES GO DEAD. MISROUTED TRAINS COLLIDE. AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL SCREENS GO BLANK. CARS MYSTERIOUSLY COME TO A DEAD HALT. AND IN NOT ONE INSTANCE IS THE CAUSE VISIBLE TO THE NAKED EYE. WELCOME TO THE BRAVE NEW WORLD OF DIRECTED ENERGY WARFARE. (DEW) IT'S ALREADY BEGUN TO CLAIM VICTIMS. JUST ASK JACK DALY WHO SAYS HE'S A CASUALTY OF A PARTICULARLY TERRIFYING NEW TECHNOLOGY.
JACK DALY, NAVAL INTELLIGENCE OFFICER, THE DOCTOR AT THE EMERGENCY ROOM TOLD ME, I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS BEFORE.
DIANE SAWYER, IT HAPPENED TWO YEARS AGO. DALY, A NAVAL INTELLIGENCE OFFICER, WAS SENT OUT ON BOARD A HELICOPTER TO PHOTOGRAPH A RUSSIAN SHIP CALLED THE KAPITAN MAN, WHICH HE SAYS WAS MONITORING U.S. SUBMARINES OFF WASHINGTON STATE. SO YOU HAVE SUSPICION THAT THIS IS A RUSSIAN SPY SHIP.
DALY ,,YES
SAWYER , IN US WATERS
DALY YES
SAWYER, DALY TAKES 30 SURVEILLANCE PHOTOS. HE AND HIS PILOT FLY BACK TOWARD HOME. THEY WERE ON THE GROUND WHEN BOTH FEEL THEIR EYES THROBBING THEIR VISION BLURRED, HORRIBLE HEADACHES. BUT WHY IT WAS A MYSTERY UNTIL DALY'S PHOTOS WERE DEVELOPED,,,DO YOU RECOGNIZE THIS?
DALY YES I DO.
SAWYER, IT'S ONE OF HIS SURVEILLANCE PICTURED, FRAME 16, LOOK CLOSELY. LOOK CLOSER STILL, THAT RED DOT BELOW THE BRIDGE.
DALY, THIS MAY BE THE FIRST TIME THAT A LASER WAS ACTUALLY EVER PHOTOGRAPHED DURING ROUTINE OPERATIONS.
SAWYER, AND MEDICAL EXAMS SHOWED DALY'S EYES HAD BEEN BURNED, AND THE LESIONS WERE CONSISTENT WITH LASER EXPOSURE. WERE NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE LITTLE POINTERS KIDS USE, BUT A BLINDING LASER, MUCH MORE POWERFUL , THAT CAN BE USED FOR PIN--POINT ATTACKS FROM HUNDREDS OF FEET AWAY.TELL ME WHAT IT WAS LIKE AND IS LIKE TO LOOK OUT OF YOUR EYES.
DALY THEY ALWAYS HURT, IVE BEEN IN CONSTANT PAIN SINCE THE 4TH OF APRIL 97, WITHOUT A MOMENT'S RELIEF.
SAWYER, CONSTANT PAIN
DALY CONSTANT PAIN
SAWYER WHAT KIND
DALY I GET THESE SURGES OF PAIN THAT CAN BE ANYTHING FROM BEING JABBED IN THE EYE WITH AN ICE PICK TO BEING HIT IN THE FACE WITH A BASEBALL BAT.
SAWYER BOTH EYES
DALY BOTH EYES
SAWYER AND IT'S NOT JUST DALY THE PILOT OF HIS HELICOPTER ALSO SUFFERED EYE DAMAGE, AND NO ONE KNOWS THE LONG TERM EFFECTS. DALY FEARS HE'LL GO BLIND.
YOU REALLY SEEM TO BE SAYING THAT THIS IS THE DAWN OF A NEW WEAPONS ERA, AND EVERYBODY BETTER WAKE UP.
DALY WELL, THIS PARTICULAR WEAPON HAS INDISCRIMINATE EFFECTS. THERE'S NO GAPING HOLE IN THE BACK OF MY HEAD. THERE WAS NO BLOOD GUSHING OUT OF THE FRONT OF MY FACE. WHEN THIS INCIDENT HAPPENED. IF IT'S A NEW DEVICE, IF IT'S A NEW TYPE OF LASER, WE MAY NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.
SAWYER AND LASERS THAT CAN BLIND PEOPLE ARE JUST THE BEGINNING, TONIGHT, WE ARE GOING TO TELL YOU ABOUT A WIDE RANGE OF WEAPONS THAT DON'T USE BULLETS, BUT BEAMS OF ELECTROMAGNETIC ENERGY AT DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES. EACH DIFFERENT KIND OF ENERGY IS DEFINED BY DIFFERENT FREQUENCIES. LASERS ARE SHORT WAVE AT HIGH FREQUENCIES. AT THEIR HIGHEST LEVELS, THEY ARE SO HOT THEY CAN BURN MENTAL.
AIR FORCE TEST CONDUCTOR,,CLEARED TO FIRE.
SAWYER, THE US MILITARY WANTS TO USE THEM TO SHOOT DOWN ENEMY MISSILES, THOUGH IN THE WRONG HANDS, THESE LASERS COULD SLICE OPEN AN AIRCRAFT WHEN IT'S FLYING IN THE SKY.AND LASERS AREN'T THE ONLY KIND OF ENERGY THAT CAN DO SERIOUS DAMAGE. RADIO WAVES AND MICROWAVES ARE LONG WAVES AT LOWER FREQUENCY. BUT THEY'RE PERFECT FOR PENETRATING COMPUTER AND DISRUPTING THE CIRCUITRY WITHOUT EXTERIOR DAMAGE TO THE MACHINE. YOU COULD CONCENTRATE THEM ON A COMPUTER AND SET A FIRE INSIDE, AND NO ONE WOULD KNOW HOW IT HAPPENED.
DAVID SCHRINER RETIRED NAVY ENGINEER,,I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM, AND I THINK WE MAY HAVE A VERY, VERY BIG PROBLEM.
SAWYER,,UNTIL RECENTLY IT WAS THOUGHT ANY KIND OF RADIO FREQUENCY OR RF WEAPON WOULD HAVE TO BE LARGE, EXPENSIVE AND SOPHISTICATED. BUT DAVID SCHRINER, A RETIRED NAVY ENGINEER ADVISING THE MILITARY, SAYS THAT IDEA IS WRONG
SHRINER , I'M TRYING TO DO THINGS JUST LIKE A TERRORIST WOULD
SAWYER, SO SCHRINER GATHERED COMPONENTS AVAILABLE IN PLACES LIKE SALVAGE YARDS AND HARDWARE STORES AND CATALOGS. HE SAYS FOR A TINKERER WHO KNOWS ENGINEERING, RF WEAPONS ARE NOT HARD TO CREATE OR EXPENSIVE. HE USED THESE COMPONENTS TO BUILD A MACHINE WHICH IS KIND OF DIRECT-ENERGY UZI. HE SAYS HE CAN TAKE OUT NOT JUST COMPUTERS BUT WHOLE COMPUTERIZED SYSTEMS.
SCHRINER I CAN BUILD THE THINGS HERE. I CAN DESIGN THEM HERE. BUT WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE TURNING THEM ON, WE HAVE TO GO TO A SAFE AND LEGAL PLACE TO DO THAT.
SAWYER, HE TAKES US FAR AWAY FROM PEOPLE AND TOWNS AND HIGHWAYS, TO THE CHINA LAKE NAVY DESERT TEST RANGE NORTH OF LOS ANGELES. WE DECIDED TO TEST HIS DEVICE ON A LOT OF THINGS WE USE EVERY DAY. SCHRINER WON'T LET US REVEAL EXACTLY WHAT'S IN THE MACHINE. THAT'S CLASSIFIED. THOUGH IT DOESN'T HAVE THE LOOK OF A HIGH -TECH WEAPON.
YOU KNOW THIS IS NOT A BEAUTIFUL THING, I DONT' WANT TO HURT YOUR FEELINGS BUT IT'S NOT.
SCHRINER, IT'S RATHER CRUDELY MADE. YOU KNOW, WE JUST KIND OF USED WHATEVER WE HAD IN MY LAB TO BUILD IT.
SAYWER, BUT WILL IT WORK? WE TAKE PRECAUTIONS WITH OUR CABLES AND COMPUTERIZED CAMERAS BY ENCLOSING THEM IN COPPER SHIELDING,
SCHRINER AND HIS ASSISTANT USE COPPER MESH MASKS TO PROTECT THEIR EYES AND FACE.
SCHRINER RAY ONE IS READY FOR TESTING.
SAWYER,, THE FIRST TARGET, TWO COMPUTERS,. THE OBJECTIVE-- TO CRASH THEM.
SCHRINER,,GOING HOT
SAWYER EVERY SHORT BURST HAS THE ENERGY OF 100 RADIO STATIONS, A MILLION WATTS, WATCH THE COMPUTER ON THE LEFT. IN JUST THREE SECONDS, IT CRASHES, AND A FEW SECONDS LATER, SO DOES THE OTHER ONE.
SCHRINIER WE HAD A SYSTEM KILL
SAWYER NEXT TARGET? AND IV PUMP, PROVIDED BY DR. LARRY COSNER FROM THE LOCAL HOSPITAL.
COSNER SOMEONE WITH THE POWER TO STOP THIS SUDDENLY WOULD HAVE THE POWER TO DEVASTATE A MEDICAL FACILITY.
SCHRINER HIGH VOLTAGE GOING HOT.
SAWYER THE EFFECT IS ALMOST INSTANTANEOUS
SCHRINER YEAH , BOY, IT SURE DID KILL IT.
COSNER IT STOPPED IT DEAD AND IT TOTALLY RESET ALL THE DELIVERY INDICATORS.
SAWYER BUT IF YOU WANTED TO CAUSE HAVOC IN A LARGE CITY, IMAGINE SOMEONE OUT OF VIEW ABLE TO SHUT DOWN CARS.
SCHRINER, I HAVE A SHUTDOWN
SAWYER AND IT HAPPENED NOT ONCE, BUT EVERY TIME HE FIRED. THE COMPUTERIZED ENGINE IN THIS CAR STARTED TO STALL.
SCHRINER VERY ERRATIC OPERATION. YOU CAN HEAR THE JIGGLING AND BURNING.
SAWYER AND HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS CLOSE,
SCHRINER GOING HOT
SAWYER WERE TOLD THERE ARE OTHER DEVICES THAT WORK FORM THOUSANDS OF FEET AWAY
SCHRINER I HAVE A KILL
SAWYER,, VIRTUALLY ANY CAR WITH A COMPUTER CONTROLLED ENGINE IS VULNERABLE. SINCE SHRINER SUPPLIED THAT CAR, WE ASKED HIM TO TEST ONE OF OUR CHOICE. ALL RIGHT, SO JUST IN CASE THERE'S ANY CHANCE YOU THINK SOME OF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN RIGGED WITH HIS CAR, LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS ONE.
SCHRINER THAT'S A DEFINITE EFFECT. IT'S DROPPED THE RPM WAY LOW, AND IT'S INTERMITTENTLY CHUGGING
SAWYER WATCH THE TACHOMETER SHRINER'S DEVICE GIVES THE CAR AN ELECTRONIC NERVOUS BREAKDOWN. IT SETS OFF THE CAR ALARM.
SCHRINER ,,SOMETHING BAD HAPPENED
SAWYER,, IT MAKES THE DOORS LOCK AND UNLOCK AND TWICE KILLS THE ENGINE DEAD
SCHRINER, I HAVE A SHUTDOWN, I KNOW THAT I COULD PUT SOME OF THIS STUFF INTO A LITTLE BRIEFCASE AND GO UP TO AN AIRLINES COUNTER OR TO A BANK COUNTER AND PROBABLY TAKE DOWN THEIR COMPUTER. I KNOW I COULD DO THAT. I HAVEN'T DONE IT YET, BUT I'M CONFIDENT THAT I COULD DO THAT.
SAWYER, WE KEEP READING THAT THE RUSSIANS ARE VERY FAR AHEAD ON THIS. WHAT DO YOU THINK?
SCHRINER , WELL, FOR YEARS WE'VE BEEN NOTING THAT THEY HAVE BEEN PROBABLY AHEAD OF US ON BUILDING HIGH POWERED MICROWAVE DEVICES.
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VICTOR SHEYMOV,,FORMER KGB, COMMUNICATIONS SECURITY EXPERT,,RUSSIANS CERTAINLY DO HAVE THAT TECHNOLOGY AND HIGHLY DEVELOPED TECHNOLOGY, THE KGB HAD IT.
SAYWER THIS IS VICTOR SHEYOV A SOVIET DEFECTOR. HIS JOB, COMMUNICATIONS SECURITY FOR THE KGB. HE TOLD US HOW RUSSIANS HAS BEEN DEVELOPING RF DEVICES FOR YEARS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME HE'S GIVEN A TELEVISION INTERVIEW ON THE SUBJECT. AND HAS THE KGB EVER USED IT AGAINST THE US.?
SHEYMOV,,YES
SAWYER, SHEYMOV TOLD US SOMETHING SHCOCKING THAT YEARS AGO , THE KGB USED PRIMITIVE RF WEAPONS TO START A FIRE AT THE US. EMBASSY IN MOSCOW WAS THE KGB AWARE THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN?
SHEYMOV OH, THEY HOPED IT WOULD. AND IT DID WORK,,SO.
SAWYER, THAT WAS THEIR INTENTION?
SHEYMOV, OH YES.
SAWYER AND THEY DID IT, SHEYMOV SAYS, AS A PRETEXT FOR SENDING IN SO CALLED FIREMEN WHO WERE, IN FACT KGB AGENTS TRYING TO PLANT BUGS, WE ASKED THE STATE DEPT ABOUT THIS,,"NO COMMENT" WAS THE RESPONSE . IT'S NOT JUST THE KGB 20/20 HAS ALSO LEARNED FROM A WELL PLACED RUSSIAN OFFICIAL THAT THOSE REBELS IN CHECHNYA ALSO USED AND RF WEAPON TO KNOCK POLICE COMMUNICATIONS DURING A HOSTAGE SITUATION. AND NOT ONLY THAT, RUSSIAN CRIMINALS HAVE USED AND RF WEAPON, WE'RE TOLD, TO DISARM SECURITY ADN ROB A BANK. THERE ARE ACTUALLY RUSSIAN MADE DEVICES ON THE MARKET LIKE THIS STATE OF THE ART "RADAN" WHICH EXPERTS SAY COULD BE SOLD AND USED AS A WEAPON AGAINST POWER PLANTS, BANKS OR AIRCRAFT. PAINT A PORTRAIT FOR ME OF THE US ;VULNERABILITY.
SHEYMOV,, EVERYTHING. THESE DAYS , VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING IS CONTROLLED BY COMPUTER.
SAWYER WE ASSUME THAT IF THERE IS A GROWING THREAT, THAT THERE'S AT LEAST SOME ANXIETY ABOUT IT.
SHEYMOV SHOULD BE. SHOULD BE A LOT OF ANXIETY
SAWYER BACK AT THE CHINA LAKE TEST SITE, THEY'RE WORRIED.
CONSIDER WHAT HAPPENED JUST A YEAR AGO RIGHT HERE, WHEN THE MILITARY DECIDED TO BOMBARD THIS HUEY COBRA HELICOPTER, WHICH ISNT' EVEN A HIGHLY COMPUTERIZED MACHINE, WITH SOME HIGH POWERED PULSES. THE RESULTS THEY'RE CLASSIFIED. ALL THEY'LL SAY IS THEY WERE SURPRISED, AND THEY DIDN'T LIKE WHAT THEY SAW.
FINALLY LET US TELL YOU ABOUT TWO OTHER WEAPONS WHICH COULD BE READY IN THE NOT SO DISTANT FUTURE. A COMPANY CREATED WHAT IT CALLS A " VORTEX LAUNCHER" FOR THE AIR FORCE. IN TIME, THE CANNONBALL OF AIR SHOULD BE POWERFUL ENOUGH TO KNOCK SOMEONE DOWN.
THIS IS IN USE TODAY ON OUR STREETS,,THIS HAS BEEN USED AGAINST ME MANY MANY TIMES. MEM
AND THE MARINE CORPS IS INTRIGUED BY STILL ANOTHER KIND OF WEAPON.
THIS IS A VIDEOTAPE OF A RECENT MILITARY WAR GAME. THE WEAPON AT ISSUE ,,SOUND WAVES WHICH, AT CERTAIN FREQUENCIES, CAN PENETRATE THE HUMAN BODY AND VIBRATE THE INTERNAL ORGANS. HERE, SOLDIERS SIMULATE THE EXPECTED EFFECT, WRITHING IN PAIN AND CONVULSIONS. WHICH BRINGS US BACK TO THE REAL LIFE EXPERIENCE OF JACK DALY, WHO SAYS THE US GOVERNMENT IS AFRAID TO TAKE ON THE RUSSIANS FOR THEIR USE OF LASER WEAPONS ON HIS EYES.
SAWYER YOU FEEL BETRAYED
DALY I FEEL VERY BETRAYED
SAWYER HE SAYS AFTER HIS EYES WERE INJURED, THE NAVY ORDERED A SEARCH OF THAT SHIP, THE KAPITAN MAN, BUT THEY GAVE THE RUSSIANS 24 HOURS NOTICE , NO SURPRISE, NO LASER WAS FOUND. AND YOU REALLY BELIEVE IT WAS A CALCULATED DECISION NOT TO ROCK THE BOAT.
DALY YES, EXACTLY.
SAWYER WITH THE RUSSIANS
DALY YES I DO
SAWYER YOU THINK THEY'RE AFRAID OF LOOKING VULNERABLE?
DALY THAT'S A DISTINCT POSSIBILITY. BECAUSE THERE ARE DEVICES THAT ARE BEING PRODUCED THAT CURRENT TECHNOLOGY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO COUNTER.
SAWYER ,,,ALL THE PENTAGON WILL SAY IS THAT DALY PROBABLY SUFFERED LASER EYE DAMAGE, BUT THERE'S NO PROOF IT CAME FROM THE KAPITAN MAN OR THAT HIS PILOT REALLY CAPTURED A LASER. EVEN THOUGH JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO , IT SEEMED TO HAPPEN AGAIN. ANOTHER HELICOPTER PILOT AND CREWMAN, THIS TIME IN BOSNIA. AND THE PENTAGON CONFIRMS THAT THEIR EYES WERE DAMAGED WITH LASERS.
DALY WHEN I SPOKE WITH THE PILOT THE OTHER NIGHT, HE TOLD ME THAT THE LASER SIGNATURE THAT HE SAW WAS A RED HALO WITH A WHITE CENTER. THAT WAS ALMOST EXACTLY WHAT WE SAW IN THAT PICTURE.
SAWYER AND DALY SAYS EVEN THOUGH HE'S BEEN TOLD BY THE NAVY TO KEEP SILENT ABOUT ALL THIS, HE'S SPEAKING OUT BECAUSE THE US HAS TO FACE THE REALITY OF THE FUTURE.
DALY EVEN THOUGH I'M PROBABLY SOLIDIFYING THE FACT THAT MY CAREER IS COMING TO AN END BY GOING PUBLIC LIKE THIS. I FEEL THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS, IF I CAN PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING TO SOMEONE ELSE, THEN I NEED TO DO THIS. IT'S MY DUTY IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THIS.
SAWYER LT. DALY IS EXPECTED TO TESTIFY ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCE TOMORROW BEFORE A HOUSE ARMED SERVICES SUBCOMMITTEE. AND BY THE WAY, SINCE THAT RECENT ATTACK IN BOSNIA, US FORCES THERE HAVE BEEN GIVEN SPECIAL GOGGLES DESIGNED TO PROTECT THEIR EYES AGAINST LASER ATTACKS.
SAM DONALDSON WHAT ABOUT OTHER COUNTRIES, I ASSUME THEY ARE WORKING ON THIS PROBLEM.
SAWYER THE EUROPEANS ARE ALREADY FAR AHEAD OF US. THE COMPONENTS IN THEIR COMPUTERS COME WITH BETTER METAL SHIELDING THAN OURS DO. SO THEY ARE BETTER PROTECTED ALREADY. BY THE WAY, THE SWEDES SENT WORD TO US OF SOMETHING. THEY HAVE BEEN TESTING ALL THIS ELECTROMAGNETIC WEAPONS, AND THEY TOLD US THAT THEY RECENTLY BLASTED A CAR FROM 3000 FEET AWAY WITH MICROWAVES AND NOT ONLY DISABLED IT, BLEW UP THE HEADLIGHT. SO THIS NEW WORLD IS AT HAND....
AS I SAID ABOVE THIS TRANSCRIPT WAS PUBLISHED AND THIS PROGRAM AIRED IN 1999
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